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The Church's Teaching Regarding Homosexuality

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality' started by WAHMBrenda, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. WAHMBrenda

    WAHMBrenda New Member

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    I was brought up in the Presbyterian Church USA, but anymore I tend to shake my head in disbelief. I understand that God calls us to love the sinner and not hate anyone, but I don't think that homosexuals should be ordained ministers. The church has always taught me that this is wrong and yet the PCUSA readily ordains them anymore. I'm curious what stance you think the Christian church should take in this regard.
     
  2. shaneckawilliams

    shaneckawilliams New Member

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    Our brother Paul set forth requirements for pastors in the book of Titus chapter 1 verse 6-9; 14. The verses go as such:

    (vs. 6-9): "...if any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not self-willed, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince gainsayers."

    (vs. 14): "...not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth." (KJV)

    Both of these verses give an insight into what a leader of a body of Christ should be, verses 6-9 say it all. But, you are interested in homosexuality in the church and I will have to tell you that homosexuality is not allowed in the church or allowed in a pastor. Sound doctrine which is the Torah forbade any homosexual relations and the punishment for that sin was death. That sin is an abomination to the Lord and should not be practiced by a pastor who has the capability to lead his flock astray into the fires of hell.

    It is true that Jesus Christ himself desires mercy and not sacrifice but a pastor practicing homosexuality, which he knows is a sin because he had to go to divinity school to be able to teach the word of God, which makes him a hypocrite. He is telling others to follow the Law but he is not willing to do it himself. That person should not be considered to lead a congregation because he is for one, not following sound doctrine, he's a hypocrite, he's sinning against God and is bold enough to get up in front of people and tell them to be holy when he is not practicing himself.
     
  3. JacqofAll

    JacqofAll New Member

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    I am a black straight woman who has experienced discrimination in my life time for being one, the other, or both. Because of this and my upbringing, I have always made it a point to accept everyone regardless of how they look or their beliefs. When I hire employees, I work hard to ensure I base my decision on capabilities and experience only. And at the risk of sounding cliché, I have friends and colleagues who are homosexual. Yet, as a Christian mother of an 8 year old male and a 5 year old female, I have concerns about a leader who chooses to partake in a homosexual lifestyle, being in a position of influence over my children. I don't limit this to just the pastor but also teachers, troop leaders, government officials and more.

    Now more than ever it is important for the Christian church to speak out about this issue and to encourage healthy heterosexual relationships. Too simply "shake our heads" is not enough. I don't have all the answers but I do know I am willing to try.
     
  4. Sandee

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    It is very clear how God feels about Homosexuality in his word (the bible). There is really no room for opinion on it because it is spelled out very clearly.

    Too many times people aren't looking for the answer, only a way for them to keep their lifestyle. The bible is clear on many other issues as well, but people will use the "Church" as an excuse to follow their own way of thinking.

    There is a hug difference between religion and spirituality. Religion most times is lacking the guidance from God and only relying on men's opinions. Spirituality is the reliance on God for everything in our lives.
     
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    Compassion for others is the fundamental cornerstone of Christian ethics; the Bible is the bedrock of the Christian faith. What Christian can possibly choose between the two?
    The answer is that no Christian is called to make that choice. The text of the Bible on one hand, and full equality for gay and lesbian people on the other, isn't a choice God is asking us to make. God would not ask or expect Christians to ever choose between their compassion and their faith. We can trust God; we can trust that God is loving
     
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    Honestly the way I look at religion in general is its all about perception. Over the course of the Bible we read the things that change because the world around them is changing. Well our world is changing at a even higher rate, yet there have not been any "sequels" to the bible. So we each have to hope we are following what we think God wants us to. I have found that my perception of God is diffrent then someone elses. So who is right? I don't know, guess I'll have to wait to see. But I do think the bible is pretty clear on loving all, regardless of thier sin. (Oh and can't anyone get ordained now-a-days? Isn't there websites for people to be ordained to perform weddings and such?)
     
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    In Christianity it is considered a sin and an unnatural act. Any type of sex can be sinfull if it is outside of the marriage and if it does not lead to procreassion.
    Furthermore, homosexuality is thought of as having harmful effect on people and same sex unions wouldn't recieve a blessing from the church.
    Also, family plays such an important part in the religion that anything that would not go in support of the family unit would be considered bad.
     

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