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I believe in energy but not god.

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality' started by pandax, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. pandax

    pandax New Member

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    I recently felt the type of body energy that everyone has seen in anime like Dragon Ball and other anime also movies but it felt weird.
    I've been an atheist for the past 9 years and I think I will stay that way.
    In my opinion gods were created so human can explain why inhuman things happen.
    Lightning?Blame Zeus!
    War?Blame Ares!
    This may sound wrong and some people may get offended by what I said but thats my opinion its 2015 and you will HAVE to accept it like I accept yours.
    I also thing that churches were created to manipulate people like Cross Wars (Byzantium times can't remember exact year of the Cross-Wars).
    I may sound weird but I've also experienced lucid dreaming a couple of times and other types of weird dreams.
    Have you ever experienced anything like this and if so what was your experience with gods and spiritual energy?
     
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    IF there is god why do people die gods should be forgiving and the adam and eva mistake should be forgiven.
     
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    Dying is not a punishment. Everyone dies to move on to the next eternal life. Because this world was not made to be lived in forever. Rather it's a test to see if we are worthy to go to Heaven or Hell.
     
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    The church is not the only religious institution in this world. There are religions like Hinduism and Buddhism which have more followers.
    According to Hinduism, God is present everywhere and in every being. He is the conscience inside a being.
    So, whether you are a believer or not does not matter. Just think good, speak good and act good.
     
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  6. MA Fresia

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    There is a biography of Albert Einstein that contains a chapter entitled "Sensorium of God". It is interesting that many people who were classified as atheists, including Einstein who gave us the formula for energy, did have a god concept. Atheism was often attributed to him and other scientists who in fact credited God for their inspirations and discoveries.

    Newton was another who was said to be an atheist. His unpublished papers were read on a television series called 'The Mechanical Universe". In them he claimed to have "seen into the mind of God" while at Trinity College studying physics. It would seem that a belief in God and science are not incompatible.

    There is the story of C.S. Lewis as well who was an atheist and converted to Christianity. I think he fell short in his stand on a few issues of morality, but his insightful published works included some very worthwhile observations on human struggles, some of which you mention. There was "The Problem of Pain" which dealt with such things on a personal and impersonal level. Then there was his humorous look at the proposition of duality in "The Screwtape Letters", a proposition we in the Millennial Age reject in favor of singular goodness. Lewis's experience of the order in the universe, as he testifies, was what led him to a belief in God. He wrote and spoke of how difficult it was to write the latter novel, so I presume it is safe to say he must have at some point inhabited that singular goodness.

    Atheism and morality are perfectly compatible, so there is common ground no matter where one stands. Hugh Nibley, of Oxford, was once quoted as saying that it was a matter of whether one believed in a personal or impersonal God. With so many concepts of God and meanings for atheism, it is hard to generalize. There are probably as many varieties of atheist as there are faith-based groups. Apart from the apparent complexities, for the simpleton in all of us, the uniting principle may be as close to us as the root of the word God. It is simply good.
     
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    I have always been impressed by the doctrines of eternal life, eternally existing intelligence, and with the no-fall universe that does not entail death, but allows "progression from grace to grace without sin to salvation". Given a choice for the context in which creation progresses, a domain free of harm, destruction, misfortune and sorrow seems not only more benevolent and beneficent but more logical. Why choose "Adversity University" when there is "Harmony College"? Death is an unnecessary sort queue all together it would seem.
     
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    Just seeing the universe, the sky, the ocean, river, and the breath of life of every living thing on earth and the mystery of death is enough reason to believe that there is ONE thing that called GOD...
     
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    Something created all of that. We can infer it was a someone. Maybe theistic evolution? Carl Sagan said something along the lines of "If there is a bubble, we can infer there is a bubble maker." I do not know if the existence of the physical world and the identity of God-- if we can presume God has a singular identity at the level of personhood-- are one and the same. I don't share an identity with what I create, but there may be some atoms and molecules in common. There may be some mystical thoughts on that, and maybe some correlates in physics, but from a purely gestalt point of view, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and I don't know that a tree and the person of God are one and the same. I feel that way about play dough. It's nice to create things with, but I don't share an identity with it. I am not the play dough. God is not the tree. The same with other persons. We may share awareness or consciousness to some extent, but we are always uniquely ourselves. We are never one and the same person. You will never be me and I will never be you. "You are you, and I am I" sort of thing, and not the amoeba blob, or the nebulae sort of thing. I am guessing that kind of transpersonal consciousness exists and has a purpose, but the down side is it can be imposing. It could lead to communions maybe you might not welcome in all cases. --What did the transcendentalist say to the Swami hot dog vendor (vegetarian of course)? "Make me one with everything." The Swami says, "I could but you wouldn't be able to cross the street."
     
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